C5 poate

[mariusb]

Salutari la toata lumea. Doresc sa cumpar un C5, deja l am gasit, am discutat cu vanzatorul (inca mai discutam ). Rugamintea mea este urmatoarea: poate cineva sa ma ajute cu decodificarea VIN-ului? VIN: VF7RDUHZJ54010850

Multumesc anticipat

[Rica]

da si tu mai multe detalii secretosule
o poza ceva?
e masina din semnatura?

[mbc]

Ce anume vrei sa stii din VIN?

Ca idee, e un C5 nou 2.7 HDI cu cutie automata in 6 rapoarte si filtru de particule. Norma de poluare este Euro4.
PRODUCT TYPE CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE CITROEN
VEHICLE FAMILY C5 (X7)
SILHOUETTE 4 DOOR SALOON
TRIM LEVEL UPPER LOW PLUS
ENGINE DT17TED4 TURBO DIESEL
TRANSMISSION BVA AM6
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR KGN - BOURRASQUE PAINT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE W&W LEATHER ST CYR + LEATHER "XS"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FX"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVA AM6C
ENGINE (TYPE) TYPE ENGINE DT
OTHER BADGE, " MISC. " EXCLUSIVE
BADGE C5
Vehicle characteristics
TRIM LEVEL UPPER LOW PLUS
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR KGN - BOURRASQUE PAINT
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE W&W LEATHER ST CYR + LEATHER "XS"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FX"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVA AM6C
STEERING VARIABLE POWER STEERING
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE W/O TACHO TORQUE
Fuel supply-Engine
ENGINE DT17TED4 TURBO DIESEL
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR WITH DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL DIESEL FUEL
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE) ANTI DEPOLLUTION L5 (ENGINE)
ENGINE (TYPE) TYPE ENGINE DT
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
POWER VARIATION (ENGINE) POWER 150 KW 440 NM
DEVICE (ANTIPOLLUTION) "EGR" EXHAUST GAS RECYCLING
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION L5 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
PARTICLE FILTER PARTICLE FILTER
FAN 2 ELECTRONIC FANS 33W INTEGRAL CTRL
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT SIEMENS ASSEMBLY
TANK FILTER RESERVOIR FILTER INTERIOR
STOP AND START WITHOUT STOP AND START
Gearbox-Driveshafts
TRANSMISSION BVA AM6
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVA AM6C
FINAL DRIVE RATIO CP 15 X 53
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE W/O TACHO TORQUE
WHEEL STYLE WHEEL ATLANTIQUE 18 INCH
CLUTCH WITHOUT CLUTCH
DIFFERENTIAL (GEARBOX) DIFFERENTIAL 86
RIM/TYRE SIZE 18 INCH TYRE FITMENT
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) TYRE 245/45 R18 W REINFORCED
WHEEL (TYPE) ALLOY WHEEL ASSEMBLY 3
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR TYRE DEFLECTION INDICATOR
GEARBOX TYPE Auto gearbox AM6
Suspension-Steering-Brakes
REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 21
STEERING VARIABLE POWER STEERING
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 25
STEERING TRAVEL 180 STEERING MECHANISM TRAVEL
ACTIVE SUSPENSION ACTIVE SUSPENSION MANUAL ADJUSTMENT
SUSPENSION (ARCHITECTURE TYPE) HYDRAULIC SUSPENSION
DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL SYSTEM ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM
STEERING (OPERATION) ASSISTED MANUAL STEERING
Body fittings
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE) CHROME SIDE PROTECTORS
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION) PLASTIC + CHROME SIDE PROTECTORS
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE) WHEEL TRIM ATLANTIQUE 18 INCH
EXHAUST TAILPIPE CHROME PLATED EXHAUST TAIL PIPE
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP SILL LIGHT FRONT AND REAR
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE) W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION ELECTRICMEMORY FOLDING EXT REAR VIEW MIRROR
WINDSCREEN WIPER FRONT WIPER AUTO SPEED 16 SPEED
REAR SCREEN WIPER W/O REAR SCREEN WASH WIPE
HEADLAMP WIPER HEADLAMP WASHWIPE
ROOF GLASS WITHOUT ROOF WINDOW
BUMPER BODY COL BUMPER + CHROME PROT + CHROME GRILLE TRIM
LUGGAGE RACK WITHOUT ROOF BARS
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
SPARE WHEEL REDUCED STEEL WHEEL + NON STD TYRE
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (GLASS APPEARANCE) ELECTROCHROME EXT REAR VIEW MIRRORS
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES CHROME EFFECT EXTERIOR HANDLE
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS) CONVEX EXTERIOR MIRROR GLASS
SUN ROOF FIXED ROOF
BUMPER TRIM CHROMED REAR CENTRAL TRIM
GLASS (APPEARANCE) TINTED + OVER-TINTED
WINDOW (TYPE) ACOUSTIC LAMINATED WINDSCREEN+TOUGHENED RR SCREEN
Interior fittings
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE W&W LEATHER ST CYR + LEATHER "XS"
ANTI-THEFT ALARM WITHOUT THEFT PROTECTION ALARM
REAR SEAT ARMREST WITH REAR ARMREST
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP) COLD COUNTRIES
SPEED GRADUATIONS GRADUATION KMS/H
DRIVING POSITION LEFT HAND DRIVE
ADDITIONAL HEATING WITHOUT ADDITIONNAL HEATING
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT PALEA METAL DECOR
MISC. INT. LAMPS AMBIENT LIGHTING
LOAD SPACE TRIM W/O MAT
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS) GRADUATION 260 KM/H 160 M/H COLOUR MATRIX
DOOR TRIM GLOSS ARGENT BLACK DECOR
LOUDSPEAKER 4 FR SPEAKERS (2 TW + 2 FR) + 2 RR SPEAKERS
SCREENING (BLIND, SIDE SUNBLIND, SUNROOF) MANUAL REAR BLIND
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL FRONT REAR ADJUSTMENT SPACER
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL MEMORY CTRL DRIVERS FRONT SEAT
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL PASSENGER FRT SEAT ELEC CNTRL
FRONT SEAT ARMREST (OPERATION) FRONT ARMREST MANUAL
COMPACT DISC WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEM WITH NAVIGATION SYSTEM COLOUR SCREEN
HEADLAMP BULBS DISCHARGE BULB
REAR WINDOW LIFT SEQUENTIAL ELECTRIC REAR WINDOW + LOCKING
TRAFFIC INFORMATION READER WITH LATERAL TRAJECTORY MONITORING
DISPLAY DISPLAY (NAVIGATION+VIDEO+RADIO+CLOCK, TEMP, CD)
COURTESY MIRROR DRIVER’S + PASSENGER’S CONCEALABLE WITH LIGHT
HEATING ELEMENT HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG THORAX SIDE + CURTAIN AIRBAG
FOOTWELL LIGHTING FRONT PASSENGER AND REAR FOOTWELL ILLUMINATION
REAR PASSENGER PROTECTION W/O RR PASSENGER PROTECTION
AIRBAG DEACTIVATION MANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER AUTOMATIC HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
DIRECTIONAL HEADLAMP WITH DIRECTIONAL LIGHTS
RADIO RECEIVER "RT4" AUDIO/TELEPHONE SYSTEM
REFRIGERATION AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL ELECTRIC CONTRL DRIVERS HEIGHT ADJ
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR DAY -NIGHT INNER REAR MIRROR
AIR CON./TEMPERATURE REGULATION AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONNED BI-ZONE
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS) CONVEX EXTERIOR MIRROR GLASS
LOAD SPACE STORAGE W/O BOOT TIDY
TUNER RADIO DUAL RADIO TUNER
OBSTACLE DETECTION SYSTEM FRONT-REAR RADAR OBSTACLE SENSOR
LATERAL BLINDS SIDE BLINDS
INFLATION PRESSURE LOSS INDICATOR TYRE DEFLECTION INDICATOR
TRIM ADAPTATION LEATHER GEAR LEVER KNOB + LEATHER GAITER
EQUALISER AMPLIFIER WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER
LOCKING CONTROL SIMPLE CENTRAL LOCKING
WINDOW (TYPE) ACOUSTIC LAMINATED WINDSCREEN+TOUGHENED RR SCREEN
STEERING WHEEL 4 BRANCH LEATHER STEER WHEEL DECOR METAL
FAN 2 ELECTRONIC FANS 33W INTEGRAL CTRL
SEAT LUMBAR SUPPORT (OPERATION) AUTOMATIC LUMBAR SUPPORT
AUDIO PACK AUXILIARY SOCKET 1 AUDIO RCA SOCKET
Electrical
ALTERNATOR ALTERNATOR CLASS 18 180 AMP
BATTERY BATTERY L3 500
STARTER MOTOR STARTER MOTOR CLASS 6+
SPECIAL LIGHTING AUTOMATIC LIGHTING + FRONT DAYTIME LIGHTS
MISC. INT. LAMPS AMBIENT LIGHTING
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP SILL LIGHT FRONT AND REAR
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION ELECTRICMEMORY FOLDING EXT REAR VIEW MIRROR
CEN. LOCKING REM CONTROL FREQUENCY LOCKING REMOTE CONTROL FREQUENCY 433.92 MHZ HETERODYNE
HEADLAMP BULBS DISCHARGE BULB
FOOTWELL LIGHTING FRONT PASSENGER AND REAR FOOTWELL ILLUMINATION
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER AUTOMATIC HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
DIRECTIONAL HEADLAMP WITH DIRECTIONAL LIGHTS
RADIO FREQUENCY WESTERN EUROPE RADIO FREQUENCY
Component manufacturers
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT SIEMENS ASSEMBLY
Miscellaneous
SPECIAL SPECIFICATION STANDARD
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
DRIVING POSITION LEFT HAND DRIVE
LABEL WITHOUT
TRAFFIC SIDE DRIVING ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE
EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT W/O HELP EQUIPMENT
SURFACE CONDITIONS GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES CHROME EFFECT EXTERIOR HANDLE

[mariusb]

Multumesc foarte mult!
Da, este masina din semnatura. An 2008, sedan, motor 2.7 V6 diesel, cutie automata, varianta Exclusive, 51.000 km, garantie. Inca negociez cu vanzatorul, dar pt ca e reprezentanta Citroen nu se lasa usor, dar o scot eu la capat . Masina imi place f mult si indeplineste cam toate cerintele mele, deci sper ca sa bat palma.

[Rica]

bafta
pune niste poze sa ne clatim si noi ochii cu minunea
poate un link ceva

[bogwol]

as zice sa te uiti mai cu atentie la masina. 51.000 km pentru o masina din 2008 din Germania/Austria (banuiesc, vazand adresa trecuta de tine la avatar) mi se pare cam prea putin. Am avut un Passat achizitionat de mine direct din Germaniape care l-am luat cu 160.000 km in 3 ani, deci care facuse mai mult intr-un an decat masina ta in 5!!!

[mariusb]

Ai dreptate, este vb de Germania. Masina este vanduta de reprezentanta Citroen, cu carte service si garantie 2 ani. Tind sa cred ca acei km sunt reali (cel putin asa sper )

[Rica]

poi cum a ajuns inapoi la reprezentanta?
cine a avut-o si de cand e pe "raft"?
e irelevant anul de fabricatie daca are istoricul cunoscut
adica juma de an pana a fost cumparata prima data
cel care a luat-o a tinut-o un an doi pentru concedii si a renuntat la ea prin bai bec (o sa imi sara MBC in cap ) si sata de un an pe "raft" din cauza motorizarii si a cutiei
deci se pot justifica km putini
studiaza istoricul si poate afli varsta proprietarilor

EDIT:uite eu am dus lada tusii de 25 de ani cu 18.000 in bord la remat.
a fost bataie pe ea
o folosea de 2 ori pe an cam 800 km adunati
dar reviziile erau lege,masina arata ca noua la casare

[mbc]

Mi-e sa nu fi fost una din urmatoarele 2 probleme:

1. Om disperat de masina pe care a dat-o inapoi din varii motive.

2. Masina care a avut probleme si a fost schimbata cu alta in garantie iar acum a fost reparata si scoasa la vanzare.

[Rica]

@mbc numa negru vezi in fata ochilor dar tii citroene in curte
esti de coma mane

[mbc]

Oamenii sunt foarte entuziasmati cand cumpara o masina si nu vad chestiile astea negre. Eu vreau sa le expun si posibilitatea ca ceva sa nu fie ok. Stie tot omul ca C5-ul arata foarte bine, ca se simte foarte bine, ca tot ce e bine, dar chestiile negative sunt omise.

Stai ca nu m-am ajuns cu banii calumea ca aparea si un DS. Si un CX. Si un XM. Si un BX. Si un C6

[Rica]

mane daca ai DS ai tot
expune si avantaje nu numai dezavantaje

[mbc]

Avantajul principal este ca primesti multa masina pentru banii pe care ii dai pentru ca devalorizarea e mare la C5.

[Rica]

cam la toata gama e mare devalorizarea
nu stiu cum o fi la utilitare

[bogwol]

pentru o masina rulata in Germania, 50000 km sunt foarte putini.
Lasati povestile cu masina pentru concediu, nu o folosea decat duminica, etc; astea sunt povesti. Am 3 masini second cumparate personal din Germania+ rude care stau acolo si care au ajutat si alti romani sa isi ia masina, deci cumva mai stiu cate ceva din piata. Daca a fost masina de firma, e ceva normal sa aiba 50.000/an iar ca persoana fizica e normal sa aiba in jur 25-30.000/an.

Nu zic ca masina nu ar fi buna, mi se pare suspect nr de km.

Pt masiusub, poti sa afli cine a fost proprietarul initial? Singura explicatie pe care o am ar fi ca masina a fost a reprezentantei si au folosit-o doar pentru drive test.